Tim Pigott-Smith interview Wodehouse in Exile
HE was arguably our most famous comic writer of the 20th century, but was accused of treachery during the war and then scuttled off to America, never to be seen in England again. PG Wodehouse is the focus of a new, one-off BBC4 film tonight [Sunday] giving, for the first time, a true account of why, and how the creator of the wonderful Jeeves found himself in Berlin during the Second World War broadcasting for the Nazis. The questions before us: was he a spy, a double agent, or simply a naïve old bean who didn’t have a clue what he was doing?
And how “true” is this story? At least “inspired by real events”, according to the film’s opening titles and, for lead actor, Tim Pigott-Smith, 66, the definitive account of Wodehouse and whether he was a Nazi propagandist. Pigott-Smith co-stars with Zoe Wanamaker who plays Ethel, his wife, otherwise known as “The Colonel”. He goes by the nickname of “Plummy” which, when you watch the drama, is entirely appropriate. He was certainly plummy of voice, and completely dippy, in the upper-crust fashion of the time.
But Pigott-Smith himself was surprised to get the offer to play the
writer. “I didn’t know what Wodehouse looked like,” he begins. “I
thought he’d be turned out in spats, or something, but actually he
looked a lot like me. Bit of a rugger-bugger!
“It’s weird because it’s just not like what you would expect him to look
like. He was about six feet tall and, if you can believe, had less hair
than me! He lost most of it in his late teens actually.
“So I was quite surprised when they sent me the script, ‘I can’t be
right for Wodehouse’. But I looked him up on the web and thought, ‘Oh
gosh. I am’.”
The actor came to the role with few expectations. “I knew this one
thing,” he continues, “that he had this difficulty with these German
broadcasts. So I read a wonderful biography by Robert McCrum, and
started reading another, and thought, ‘I really don’t need this.’ I’ve
got such a good script here. I think I understand the character, and
that’s the point that you hope research will get you too.”
He was determined to avoid any sort of “impersonation”. Pigott-Smith
insists: “That is absolutely fatal. You want to try to catch a quality,
and there is a quality in his speech, which is very sweet. That’s the
sort of essence of it. He’s just a little boy really. I don’t think he
ever grew up. It was just there in the script [by Nigel Williams of
Wimbledon Poisoner fame].”
Arrested by the Nazis in Le Touquet, where he was a tax exile, Wodehouse
was interned before being taken to Berlin where he was asked to
broadcast about his time in the prison. But after his broadcasts were
heard in Britain, he was labelled a traitor. The Daily Mirror’s
Cassandra said: “He was a rich man trying to make his greatest sale”.
Pigott-Smith couldn’t disagree more. “I think he was an innocent.
Completely. He had no objective vision of the real world. He was an
escapist and he escaped into the fantasy land of these novels. He really
is not of this world. He was being manipulated by the Germans. He
doesn’t realise.”
He adds: “He saw his parents for something like two months in six years.
Insane level of childhood deprivation. He was looked after by maiden
aunts. That’s where he gets all the fuel that he writes about. At the
very end of the film, he says, ‘My world is extinct. It’s as extinct as
the maiden aunt’. If you gave his stories to a 12-year-old now, they
would think it was science fiction.”
The 90-minute film sizzles with wit, mostly from Wodehouse. In his first
broadcast, says Pigott-Smith, the writer even quips about internment:
“That’s the point you see. Wodehouse said: ‘There’s quite a lot to be
said for internment. It keeps you out of the saloon. It gives you a
chance to catch up on your reading. And you get a lot of sleep!’ It’s
brilliant.”
Wodehouse stayed in Berlin until 1944, then he got out to Paris. He paid
for himself in Berlin, living on the royalties from his own books, says
Pigott-Smith. “But on paper it looked bad. The real problem is that
they were broadcast in America, at the same time that we were trying to
get them into the war. It sounded as though he was saying [of the
Germans], ‘They’re all terribly nice chaps.’”
He was clearly intelligent, but why not clever enough to see what they
Germans were doing to him? Says Pigott-Smith: “He was a fool, and he
says that later on, he’s been an ‘absolute fool’. He realises what he’s
done but at the time, he didn’t realise it or he wouldn’t have done it.”
The film, he agrees, is something of a reparation. “I don’t think there
are people now who think he is guilty. Even the man who started the
campaign against Wodehouse, Cassandra from the Mirror, forgave him when
they met in the Seventies in New York.”
So we can believe everything we see in this drama? “I think even where it’s imagined, it’s completely accurate.”
He adds: “There’s a weird responsibility when you play someone real.
With Frank Vickers [The Vice] you just make it up. With Wodehouse, we
have to be careful. I didn’t come across anything in the script that I
thought about in those terms. You feel this when you watch it. It was
put together with great love and care.”
By the end of the film, you may well agree with “The Colonel” who told
her husband: “You’re a very clever man pretending to be stupid.” To
which Wodehouse replies: “I didn’t have a clue.”
Who do we blame for what happened? “There was a suggestion that
Churchill didn’t like him. The Establishment then may have felt they had
to fall in line with his known vindictiveness. It’s impossible to know.
But the charges were dropped and sense was seen. As Malcolm Muggeridge
[MI5 spy & novelist] puts it in the film, ‘Oh England, what do you
do to those who love you’.”
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